In a message dated 4/22/2003 5:21:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rawnclark@... writes: > To change them, there's nothing you can do -- but to change yourself, or > at least the debilitating effects of your reaction, there's lots of > I am surprised that you say there is nothing that he can do to effect them. Is not part of the initiates path to generate love not only in himself but in others is this not part not the will of the Divine providence That our leader Franz Bardon tells us of. I did he not have to face such things and use is Initiate abilites in order to change others for self preservation. And regards to the chap who said now a paraphrase "Think how lucky you are to own a computer" - me think it incredibly condensenting. Our friends pain is not lessened by the owner ship of material things. It may be true that meditation (connection with the Akasha/ elements) will allow him to transform is pain into some thing positive. But it is by no means a simple thing , and does not deal with the negativity that these peol inflict on others. Some discussion of what an responsibility to protect others as well as our self's and how are great leader Franz Bardon dealt with such things, are in order. TMN [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]