Hmm, this sounds like something I used to experience after doing chi kung, especially at night. I never persued it any further though... amater_8 <izbezumljene_ovce@...> wrote: I did tried to manipulate it before but it seemed pretty self willing. Its moves are gentle but yet fast and all it tends to do is to disappear to the right (another thing I noticed, its always moving towards right and I don't think it has anything to do with air currents in the room). This smoke-seeing condition appears only after long time spent in VOM and its easy to snap out of it, just like its easy to break the body relaxation. During that time my eyeballs have light feeling, like I'm using a different, more ethereal pair of eyes. (many of those details I couldn't remember at the time I was writing the first post) So I was thinking maybe this is the result of my old wish to see the invisible (either 'astral' or some energy that takes practice before you can see it) which is beginning to manifest. And my first associations with this kind of smoke is deep calmness, silence of mind, cold and passive space etc.. and before you comment, I know 'silence of mind' and 'association' shouldn't be put in same sentence ;) That is just feel I got from this smoke and I doubt I can go deeper and find out more so far. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]