Dear Hervé, >> ok, now i understand,because in diagrams i had seen,i dont remember had heard something about the plane's "location"(in the esoteric sense of the word). << In the "esoteric sense" of the word, "location" isn't a spatial reference. It's a reference to vibration or level of meaning/philosophical significance; vibration or density of the astral and/or mental materia; and, position in the *philosophical* hierarchy of the planes. >> Well,a little info, maybe you know this scientist: Dr Masaru Emoto (Japaneese of course) He mades experiences on water ,his two books "Messages from water1 &2" both best sellers. << Yes, I'm familiar with his work. :) This is ancient knowledge actually, only the "scientific proof" is new. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 25 May 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe