Dear Gordon, >> So, I'm left wondering. What type of energy does the finger magick ritual utilize? Would it use etheric/astral in a very pk-like manner or does it use the fire element itself to ignite the substance? If it is the fire element, then, is it using ambient fire element floating around in the environment or the condensed fire element within the forefinger? << I suggest that you re-read that section of IIH. I think Bardon did a good job of describing the mechanics of the finger rituals and their creation. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 21 Jun 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe