Dear Joao, >> But "younger" people (and I do not speak in terms of earthly age), will surely have a greater dificulty in finding one that is truly righteous... One that isn't simply after our money. These "mistakes" can easily be considered a fragment of our normal path as human beings, but isn't there a way to avoid this? << It depends upon one's maturity and one's karma. If one is mature enough to question the prospective Order thoroughly and knows the questions worth asking (such as those suggested in the other replies), then this can be easily avoided. But if it is a matter of one's karma that becoming part of a "false" Order is what you need to gain maturity, then it seems unavoidable, doesn't it? Discernment is a key faculty that every magician must develop. The Orders that are after one's money are fairly easy to spot. It's the Orders after things other than your money that take the greater powers of discernment to avoid. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 23 Jun 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe