Dear M., >> Thanks for the explanation Rawn, IHVH sounds fascinating - Though I find the correspondencies at the end of your post somehwat confusing (i.e. I was under the impression that the astral realm related to the water element - as you mentioned in the Archaeous, and 'Heh' representing two different things could take a little getting used to) << That's the trouble with fast and quick explanations of such a deeply complex thing as The Name. You ultimately miss out on the depth of the philosophy, especially the parts that don't fit into rational logic, such as the Elemental attributes. IHVH doesn't exist as an island all by itself -- it exists completely within the context of Kabbalah and if you've never studied Kabbalah, it will make little sense. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 27 Jun 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe