Dear Peter, >> I ment, if I left my practicing of the steps of IIH and started working almost exclusivly upon the work of KTQ it is fairly obvious that I could only go so far. << Yes. You could "learn the Letters" but not utter them Kabbalistically. In other words, when it came to working the First Key, you'd hit a brick wall. To utter the Letters Kabbalistically requires considerably more than just "learning the Letters". >> As such, I guess I'm going to have to be balancing my work between IIH and KTQ. << I suggest that your greater emphasis be upon the IIH work. >> Then following that logic, then it would be rather difficult to master the letters with out mastering the fluids first. But from my own minimal experience with the letters, it would seem to the contrary. << For "learning the Letters" this is not an issue, but when it comes to being able to utter them Kabbalistically, it does matter. Mastery of the Fluids is a prerequisite to Kabbalistic utterance. This is one reason why continuing your IIH work would be crucial to eventual success with KTQ. >> When I first experienced the direct perception of essential meaning, as I described previously, it was like I was seeing "infinity within a blade of grass, and eternity in every hour" to put it poetically. << :) Is it any wonder to you now that Bardon spoke of the connection between magic and mysticism? Magic leads to a mystical outlook . . . it moves one to poetry because this is often the only way to even begin expressing the deeper reality. >> Yet once I returned to normal waking consciousness, it all faded away into something that I could only half remember. In subsequent attempts to achieve the direct perception of essential meaning I had problems attaining such a state of mind, though when I did it was only for fleeting moments through whcih I have eventually been starting to remember more and more of the perceptions of essential meaning. << Good. This speaks of the proper progress. :) It's like a newly forming stream. When the water runs this way for the very first time it's an extraordinary thing and the soil rejoices. At first the water runs free but blockages build up in the course and the water begins to pool until it builds up enough pressure to break through again. Over time, what began as a small course of water, builds into a stream. The stream digs into the soil, creating a sure and free course. With repeated practice, you clear the channels between that aspect of your consciousness which continuously perceives essential meaning and those parts of your consciousness that continuously interpret essential meaning. This softens the normal rigidity of that interpretation and with time, the interpretive aspects of consciousness become able to include/comprehend more and more of the raw essential meaning >> That makes sense. Then I take it that the working with the Lights is something that can be used to help heal the internal organs in a fashion that is potentially safer than trying to do so with the Elements? << Whether or not it was "safer" would depend upon your facility with the Elements. Once mastered, the Elements are "safe". >> I guess this would be why Bardon calls the Fire Pole an exercise in the mysticism of Letters. << :) Yes. >> Hence with this work I seem to be better understanding of the qualities of the Letters while I work with them, in addition to starting to spontaniously see how these qualities manifest throughout existence upon the mental, astral and material planes of existence. << Exactly! :) It's again the same pattern of progression illustrated by the IIH work. One begins with learning how to recognize the Universal Qualities as they manifest within one's own self, then how they manifest externally. Then one turns to manipulating those Universal Qualities, quantitatively within the own self and then externally. This personalizes the Universal. >>>As I stated in my KTQ Commentary, there are limits to what I'm willing to discuss regarding KTQ, in public. <<< >> Having started to work through the Fire pole, I completely understand what you are talking about. << Hallelujah! ;-) You are the first person to reply in this way to that statement! In every other case, I've received either a passive acceptance or a querulous rebellion, but never actual understanding. >> And I also completely understand why you say that it is rather rare that a person who has completed step five within IIH has very little need for guidence from external sources due to their connection with their greater guardian genious. << Good. >> However, since I'm just starting the work of the passive communication with the great guardian genious and am working towards deeping my more intimate connection with it as well, I'm probably still going to be asking as many questions as I can in the meantime. << ;-) >> I'll be putting forth experiences and theories that I need confirmation upon as to their credibility, though I'm pretty sure at one point or another I'm going to have to start trusting my gut on such matters. << Yep! My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 05 Jul 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe