Dear Marcus, >> http://www.trufax.org/welcomemsie.html Ignoring all the hyperbole on the site, does that image compute for anyone who's wandered about on the higher Astral/Mental regions? << It's an interesting image, reminiscent of a series of images I devised several years ago but then abandoned as being rather pointless. It is simply impossible to convey this subject matter with any degree of accuracy through two dimensional (or even 3 dimensional) imagery. >From examining the "Matrix V" image and from reading snippets of the accompanying text, it seems the author has merged what I term the Greater Self and the Individual Self, into his "Higher Self", without distinction. So, while the image does depict the descending multiplication or splitting of awareness into individualized, temporal units, it does not do this with a whole lot of accuracy or clarity. What seems to be the interfering factor is the author's own ego need to feel important and special as evinced by his statements about who is capable or not of perceiving these higher aspects of Self. With this degree of egotism, it's very difficult to conceive of there being any intermediary between the personal self and the Greater Self. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 10 Aug 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe