Dear Alex and Pasha, >> Lately I wanted to make an exception and to present to her my workings with TMO. I discussed my results of this work with her in pretty much detail... In consequence I've "lost it all" - I had to put much effort to come back to the same level... And as I felt it, this was caused by my subconsciousness, and not by any external forces ;-) << This is most common with the new experiences and the new realizations. Before you try telling them to someone, they are pure, raw experience. However, the process of putting those experiences into words and stringing them in some sort of logical sense, takes them out of the realm of fluid experience and makes them rigid things. They lose their fluidity and are no longer raw experience. You've effectively put them in a little box and limited them. You've distanced yourself from that raw experience. The impact of this upon the subconscious is that it destroys the mystery of raw experience and turns it into a mundane 'thing' -- into something that happened, instead of something that is happening. It's normal to want to tell some one about a new and exciting experience you've had since sharing relieves the internal pressure of excitement. Ordinarily, this is harmless and goes far to increase the intimacy with the other person. But unless the other person has shared in the same experience and can truly relate to your excitement, it will always diminish the intensity of the raw experience for you. The only times when this is not true is when you're sharing your experience with some one undergoing the same experience or some one who is accustomed to that experience. Then, your sharing is returned and the other person shares their own impressions of their experience. This sort of interaction *adds to* the mystery of the raw experience as you each show the other new ramifications and new ways of seeing the same experience. This sort of sharing opens *your* limited experience to new horizons and empowers the sense of excitement which keeps the rawness of experience alive. It deconstructs the structure you create in the process of putting your raw experience into solid words. An example of this is the TMO Working Group. After each ritual, we share our experiences with each other and in so doing, our mutual experience grows rapidly. In this way, we take each other higher instead of lower, because we are opening each other to new horizons and new possibilities. But again, this only happens because we are all participating in the same experience. Another example of this are forums like this one in which we share our experiences with those who are also undergoing similar experiences or who are familiar with the experiences we're describing. The insights we receive from others open us to new possibilities within our own experience and this counteracts the negative effect that putting our experience into words has upon the experience itself. Describing *techniques* however, is entirely different and has no detrimental effect upon the personal experiences that have resulted from our use of those techniques. It's only when we describe the raw experience itself that we encounter this effect of diminishing the aliveness and the mystery of something sacred. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 18 Oct 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe