NB I normally do not answer to questions as Rawns comments always gives us a much better and higher perspective; however this time I could not help myself. When we attempt to theorize and explain every thing and try to give meaning and labels to the theory we "totally" miss the point. By doing this we remain in the physical plane and cant open "other" doors. The four elements are opposites while Akasha is the centre of them all. Where does cold ends and heat begins in an eternal thermometer?? IT is known that the inside of the Sun is extremely cold, yet the outside burns at extremely hot temperature.. What I am trying to say is that all elements are integrated, and interdependent, you can not completely isolate one from the others.. Marco -----Original Message---- From: newbieonekenhobby [mailto:newbieonekenhobby@...] Sent: 21 October 2003 22:22 To: BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BardonPraxis] Does Water give form to Fire ? In Rawn's comments on IIH, I read in the "Theory Section": <<The magnetic Fluid *gives form* to the Electric force>> (emphasis mine). Taking this literally, meaning that the creation deriving from the Electric force takes actual shape through the influence of the magnetic Fluid, is it possible to infer that Water gives form to Fire ? a) Superficially this looked obvious to me given the attributes of the respective Elements. But suddenly I was not sure this was "licit". b) Since *Water* somewhat looks like an instantiation of the *Magnetic* Fluid or its concrete manifestation (sorry - I don't find the words), and the equivalent for Fire, the deduction seems logical from that angle also At the same time, since they are not at the same level, and given the explicit additional attributes of Water and Fire, I was not sure this was authorized. What is correct ? Or am I "pedaling besides the bicycle" :-) ? Or should I wait till level 8 :-( ? Many thanks. NB Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.4074964.5287182.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705077360:HM/A=1706996/R=0/SIG=11p5b9ris/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=30509&media=atkins> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.4074964.5287182.1261774/D=egroupmail/S=:HM/A=1706996/rand=563751104> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]