Dear NB, >> Taking this literally, meaning that the creation deriving from the Electric force takes actual shape through the influence of the magnetic Fluid, is it possible to infer that Water gives form to Fire ? a) Superficially this looked obvious to me given the attributes of the respective Elements. But suddenly I was not sure this was "licit". b) Since *Water* somewhat looks like an instantiation of the *Magnetic* Fluid or its concrete manifestation (sorry - I don't find the words), and the equivalent for Fire, the deduction seems logical from that angle also At the same time, since they are not at the same level, and given the explicit additional attributes of Water and Fire, I was not sure this was authorized. << Although this will not answer your question, it's some advice. At some point, you have to let go and jump in. In other words, the only way to truly understand something is to experience it. Theoretical knowledge can only give you so much understanding, if really any at all. So in order to truly understand the elements, you really have to experience them. The way that the elements interact cannot really be expressed in words, I suppose that is why it is attributed to the occult, if you could understand it simply conceptually, then it would be widely accepted. But it cannot. >> What is correct ? Or am I "pedaling besides the bicycle" :-) ? Or should I wait till level 8 :-( ? << Fortunately, you do not need to wait till Step 8. You being to directly work with the elements in Step 3, which helps to understand them better, and at completion of Step 6, you will have mastered the elements, so before then (hopefully) you should have a full understanding of the elements and their interaction. Like I said, not a real answer, but something to think about. I would answer your question, but I myself have not mastered them so I cannot in good conscience try to ;) All Will Go Well, --Alan