In one of the replys to the 'nature of the astral and mental bodies of plants, animals,& objects ' etc, I believe Rawn said that everything was an expresion of an eternal mental body. But in PME, Bardon says that what makes humans 'made in the image of god' is that they possess all 4 elements, which makes them a little picture of the universe, the wholde microcosm/macrocosm deal. Because of that ( and im shaky on this, PME is just a bit out of my leauge..:) ) the human spirit is imortal, capable of reincarnation, etc. So would say, a tree's spirit be "imortal" because its an expresion of the idea of a tree? and that expression lasts even when the tree is physicaly destroyed? What about the different elements, Bardon says that only human beings possess all 4, but could an object or plant express any? Would that differ from expressing the idea of fire compared to expressing the element of fire? In your response about the alchemical properties of different objects, i believe you said that what made the object powerful was how purely it expresed its idea. So, if an object could purely express an element, would that be the reason certain objects are atributed to different sephirot/planets, like iron is atributed to mars because it expresses the element of fire well....? Just a bit more and this barage of questions will be over :) In the self healing archaeous, im stuck at the step requiring astral projection, since I havn't learned that ability yet. If anyone could offer any advice on this, or just clue me in if its better to simply wait until I encounter astral projection in IIH, it would be greatly apreciated. I know theres lots of material on the net about astral projection, but I trust those sources far, far less than the opinions of the people here. Heh...had no idea I had so many questions! Hope my wording wasnt too confusing. If you take a stab at this e-mail, then your a braver man than I. And your also a very kind soul, thanks to anyone who trys to lift me out of my ( semi-permenant ) cloud of confusion.