Dear 'ihya1347', >> In one of the replys to the 'nature of the astral and mental bodies of plants, animals,& objects ' etc, I believe Rawn said that everything was an expresion of an eternal mental body. But in PME, Bardon says that what makes humans 'made in the image of god' is that they possess all 4 elements, which makes them a little picture of the universe, the wholde microcosm/macrocosm deal. Because of that ( and im shaky on this, PME is just a bit out of my leauge..:) ) the human spirit is imortal, capable of reincarnation, etc. << In that passage, Bardon was speaking specifically of the differences between a *being of the Elements* and a human being. The beings of the Elements are composed of just one Element and do not themselves have an eternal mental body. Or rather, their eternal mental body is the Element itself. What makes something "made in the image of G-d" is that it possesses a physical, astral and mental body which stems from an eternal, Akashic root. A being of the Elements exists only at the astral level and does not possess the full array of bodies. >> So would say, a tree's spirit be "imortal" because its an expresion of the idea of a tree? and that expression lasts even when the tree is physicaly destroyed? << Yes. >> What about the different elements, Bardon says that only human beings possess all 4, << No, this is not what Bardon wrote. He did not say that *only* human beings are composed of four Elements. ALL physical things are composed of four Elements. >> In your response about the alchemical properties of different objects, i believe you said that what made the object powerful was how purely it expresed its idea. So, if an object could purely express an element, would that be the reason certain objects are atributed to different sephirot/planets, like iron is atributed to mars because it expresses the element of fire well....? << Essentially, yes. >> Just a bit more and this barage of questions will be over :) In the self healing archaeous, im stuck at the step requiring astral projection, since I havn't learned that ability yet. If anyone could offer any advice on this, or just clue me in if its better to simply wait until I encounter astral projection in IIH, it would be greatly apreciated. << If you are referring to Lesson Four which concerns the *passive separation* of the astra-mental body, then what's holding you back is likely to be the prerequisite of completion of Step Two of IIH and the attainment of the "rudimentary Elemental balance". If, on the other hand, you are referring to Lesson Seven, I'd say it's again not having achieved the prerequisites that is holding you back. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 26 Oct 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe