Dear MJ, >> Some might say that "mind chatter" creates an obstacle both to external observation (by adding things to impressions) and internal action (by blocking will), that it diffuses and wastes energy, that it is a sign of a lack of inner unity and control. Mind chatter may increase negative emotions, if it is critical and judging, it may delude consciousness if it constantly self-justifies, explains away, or otherwise hides the truth. Mind chatter helps to obscure the real, by allowing some one to judge others by a standard other than they judge themselves. Mind chatter can lead to one identifying with one's thoughts and mental states instead of controlling them. I think a better statement would be that mind chatter may or may not be a shortcoming, or symptomatic of a shortcoming, but I do think it is dangerous to rule it out all together. << What you are describing are the ways in which the individual *relates to* mind chatter. In and of itself, mind chatter is a simple fact of nature -- a mechanism of the brain bound consciousness. Once the individual turns their attention away from the surface chatter of the mind, it decreases. The surface chatter reflects the inner state of the individual and it's the inner state that must be transformed, along with the individual's relationship to the surface chatter. But the surface chatter itself is not to "blame", so to speak. Certainly, *how one relates to their surface chatter* is an issue relevant to the Soul Mirror, but mind chatter itself is not since it is not an aspect of one's character. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 28 Oct 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe