Rawn wrote: > What you are describing are the ways in which the individual > *relates to* mind chatter. In and of itself, mind chatter is a > simple fact of nature -- a mechanism of the brain bound > consciousness. How so? What purpose does it serve? From the looks of it, it seems that the chattering mind is in a pathological state, and that its "natural" state would be calmer; much like a calm pond compared one that is ravaged by a storm; especially as many have pointed out, the mind tends to calm when you stop struggling with it and "let go" of thoughts. Are we causing it to calm, or simply allowing it the freedom and space it needs to blossom? > The surface chatter reflects the inner state of the individual and > it's the inner state that must be transformed, along with the individual's relationship to the surface chatter. But the surface chatter itself is not to "blame", so to speak. I would agree. Every effect has its cause, every cause has its effect. mj