Dear S2, >> I wonder how relevant this Will-less state is in the Bardon system. It feels more like a Taoist kind of thing. << Um, in IIH it's called "Emptiness of Mind". My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 31 Oct 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe