Dear Robert, >> Is it possible that one can experience freedom from a particular circumstance without changing or leaving the circumstance? I would think that merely coming away from one's circumstances or a physical change would not necessarily solve the problem, if there is one. It would be to the individual's advantage to experience "freedom in" before "freedom from". Otherwise, we would be taking the same old self with us, which inturn would produce similar or new circumstances. << True freedom is not situational. It's *internal*, not external. One can be free within ANY circumstance. Our essential freedom is our ability to think and feel any way *we* want. No external circumstance can steal that away from us. Of course, we always face limitations placed upon the externalization of our internal freedom -- or rather, we face *consequences* that move us to limit our own externalization. If you do not fear the consequences, then no externally imposed limitation can prevent you from expressing your inner freedom in whatever way you choose. >> Some philosophers have said that "freedom" is an illusion. There ain't no such animal. That's an interesting thought. << ;-) Yeah, philosophers have said a lot of rather silly things over the ages. Seriously though, freedom *seems like* an illusion only to those who are not themselves free. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 09 Nov 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe