Dear Mark & Dan, Mark asked: >> I really do have to ask: What's the deal with the missing letters in G-d. << I write it this way because I don't particularly like the word "God". It's to inclusive, not specific enough and its usage carries with it all sorts of dogmatic, religious overtones. So by writing "G-d", instead of "God", the word is taken a bit out of its religious context. Sill, I don't use the term "G-d" very often. Dan wrote: >> This principle then extends to the spoken word too,which is why Jews will tend to use the word HaShem ("the Name") rather than use the word "G-d". This is further extended to the Tetragrammation in which the word "Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh", which, I guess is considered to be the holiest of the commonly-known names of G-d (Rawn - could you confirm on this one?) would always be pronounced as "Adonai", which I guess, although a holy Name of G-d, is seen as a lower version of the Name. << Ha Shem *is* the IHVH. It is a specific reference to the "Unspeakable Name". One reason why IHVH cannot be spoken is because it carries no vowel points which make the consonants utterable ("jehovah" and "yahweh" being fanciful intellectual inventions of no intrinsic value). But mainly, it's considered unspeakable because to do so would be to usurp the power of IHVH. The mystical point being that one must *become* the IHVH, not "speak" it in the mundane sense. So called "Masters of the Name" are those who are able to utter The Name kabbalistically because they are *at one with* IHVH -- they *become* The Name. Adonai ("lord") is a *manifestation of* the IHVH and can be spoken because to do so does not usurp power that doesn't belong in the hands of the mundane person.. >> Rawn - following from this discussion, I have a quick question for you (or, indeed anyone who can help me out). In Hebrew texts, I have seen pretty much all the commonly-known names of G-d. However, there is one Name, which is also pronounced "Adonai" but it is written as Yod-Yod. I have not come across anything in my reading that provides a correspondence for this name and was wondering whether you could shed a little light. << My understanding is that this is a reference to the combination of IHVH and ADNI (Adonai). This results in IAHDVNHI which is contracted to the first and last Yods. Since it is an expansion of the IHVH, representing the IHVH *and* its manifestation ADNI, it would be said as "Adonai" out of deep respect. This refers to a specific state of consciousness in which the all the stations of the IHVH are simultaneously present within the Heh-final and made manifest through an individual consciousness within a single temporal present moment. Which, by the way, is the intention of The Magic of IHVH-ADNI. :) My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 21 Nov 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe