Hi Stephen, Yeah, I'm just becoming aware of how elusive the emptiness of mind practice is for me because I bring an agenda to my practice -- I "chase" emptiness. When I achieve small moments of it I crow my triumph to myself and of course I lose it then. So I get frustrated which starts the whole cycle over again. I definitely do not "want" to be mindful. I mean sometimes I really struggle against it. When I eat I would rather read or talk than focus on my food, much less imagine myself taking in a wish. I speculate that this has something to do with feeling uncomfortable at meals with my family when I was younger. I think when I tell myself, "Okay, David, you can't do these other fun things like read or talk, you have to not think of anything but this wish," I react as if I were being coerced. And who would want to let himself be coerced. It seems that I need to tackle these feelings, otherwise I won't be able to progress. David --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Miller" <qwertyguy3@h...> wrote: > For me Step One and Step Two have been a continuous, very frustrating, but > always interesting cycle. The visualization exercises have become a sort of > exam to see how I'm doing on character transformation. I had very little > trouble with the Step One mental exercises, but when it came to the Step Two > exercises, I had no luck at all when what seemed to be mental control turned > out to be in part due to repressed emotions. The most important thing is to > stay introspective. Remember that the mental chatter depends on emotions to > sustain itself. For some reason, some part of yourself does not want to be > mindful at the moment. I can possibly give some tips of you want to > describe your problem more. > > Stephen M.