Dear Mark, >> Part of ascendence is the recognition that (particularly in relation to the Qaballah) that the universe is infinitely complex << Another aspect of "ascendance" is the recognition/experience that it is also infinitely simple, the final resolution being that it simply *IS*. It is infinitely complex only to the sequentialized consciousness. >> This would, to my mind, be equal to the confines of *possibility* that define an entire "universe". Does this also mean that the modifications to the relevant universal laws in each complete universe determines the absolute size of the overall possibilities that I am talking about. Hope that makes sense ;-) << In any *single* given present moment of time-space, yes. But you must remember that there an infinite number of present moments, thus *all* of that infinite number of possibilities within Binah are manifest. And while the Laws themselves are immutable, their *adaptations* are truly infinite in number and scope -- just not all at once, temporally speaking. >> Thanks for that - although I have always been under the impression that there is indeed a limit to the physical realm, which I have come across from a process I call "edgeriding" which is forcing your consciousness to the absolute limit to which physical matter has expanded; this is still increasing but taken from a sufficiently grand perspective, is in fact a very small - even given it's near infinite appearance from the physical human perspective. This region beyond has the potnetial for physical reality to expand in to it, but this is what I deem to be a present physical boundary. << This is true *of this present moment in time-space*. In any *single* present moment of time-space, the *physical* universe is finite (really, really BIG, but still finite). What makes the present-moment universe infinite are the astral and mental aspects of it. Only when one considers the astra-mental does one arrive at a truly infinite present moment. However, seen from an eternal perspective, the physical universe is also infinite, just not *within* any single moment of its existence. >> Given any physical capping and any absolute laws, no matter how maleable, is what gives rise to the question about how infinite is infinite if taken from a sufficiently distanced position. << Infinity changes order or magnitude not by quantity, but by type. In other words, the next highest order of infinity must encompass a higher "dimension" or level of being. Each is still infinite in terms of the substance in question. For example a mental infinity can produce and encompass an infinite number of physical infinities. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 03 Dec 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe