Dear Rawn, > Let me clarify and hone this to a razor sharpness then, shall I? ;-) > > Thought observation and thought discipline are required *for* everything > that follows in IIH. > ... > Emptiness of mind however, *must* be continued as a regular exercise, That's what I meant, in fact : what is not required in the subsequent levels is thought control and thought discipline *as exercises*. I somewhat just managed to express the opposite :-( > Now that's *real* magic! :) You are an official Practicing Magician! Hallelujah ! :-) Thanks, Rawn. NewBornMagi release 1.00