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["joa_adeptus" <joa_adeptus@...>]

Dear Rawn:

Thank you for your attention. It made me so happy receive your 
answers, but I must to say I haven´t got very clear some things.
In your answer to my first question, you seem to consider correct 
those attributions. Well, here in Spain there are two translations 
of IIH, one translated by a person called Manuel Algora Corbí (the 
Luis Cárcamo edition) and other translated by José Aguado (the 
Mirach edition)and the two say things completely different about the 
subject in the section under the heading "The soul or astral body". 
The first edition says the following (I translate directly from 
spanish): "The phlegmatic temperament is born from the watery 
element, and the melancholic (temperament)is appointed to the 
terrestrial element". Well, let´s go with the Mirach edition: "the 
melancholic (temperament) is born from the watery element and the 
phlegmatic (temperament) is atributted to the terrestrial element".
Well, after this exposition I have two questions to make:
1)What is exactly the right version and why?
2)Why do you seem consider like correct in your answer the second 
version if the first is in total accord with the ancient tradition 
of the four temperaments? 
Well, thank you very much for your attention. :)

joa

 

- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...> 
wrote:
> Dear Joa Adeptus,
> 
> Welcome to BardonPraxis! :)
> 
> >> 1)In a book called "Franz Bardon:questions and answers" I have 
read
> the following related to the elements: "The melancholic 
temperament is
> analogous to the Water element" and "the phlegmatic temperament is
> analogous to the Earth element". Is this right? <<
> 
> Yes. He also wrote about this in the Theory section of IIH, under 
the
> heading of "The Soul or Astral Body".
> 
> >> 2)Is it really possible not thinking about nothing? It seems to 
me
> impossible, because the mind is always thinking about something. 
If you
> say that you are not thinking about nothing, then I suspect that 
your
> thought is: "I am thinking about nothing" Am I wrong? <<
> 
> Yes, you are wrong. Thinking "I am thinking about nothing" is 
still
> thinking and that is not an emptiness or vacancy of mind. This 
exercise
> *IS* possible as many here have proven through their own 
efforts. :) I
> suggest that you visit the "Correspondence Excerpts" page on my 
website.
> http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/Corresp-Links.html There you 
will find
> a lot of information about this exercise and others. I also 
recommend
> my "Commentary Upon" IIH, Step One in particular.
> http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/IIH-Step1.html
> 
> >> 3)The exercise of attributions to the elements of 
charasterictics of
> personality is to me very very complicated and subjective. What is 
the
> correct form of making these attributions? <<
> 
> Well, at this stage it is very subjective. Bardon clearly stated 
what
> must be done. You must meditate upon each item of your lists and, 
based
> upon your meditations about the Elements themselves, you must 
decide
> which Element the item corresponds to.
> 
> Again, I recommend visiting the two links above.
> 
> >> 4)Is it normal that in certain moments or in certain days the
> exercises don´t go very well? Per example, when I practice the 
first
> execise (observing the thoughts two times a day) the second time is
> never better than the first. It´s strange. <<
> 
> Yes, that is a fairly normal experience. As you progress however, 
this
> becomes less and less.
> 
> >> Can it be that the mind is tired with the exercise of the first 
time?
> (well, it can be interesting to say that I don´t practice in the
> morning, but in the afternoon and at night before sleeping. Is it
> right?) <<
> 
> Well, if you're tired in the evening then your performance will
> naturally reflect your tiredness. These exercises require mental
> alertness, so you might want to refresh yourself just before your
> evening session. A splash of cold water on your face or a bit of
> exercise both do wonders. :)
> 
> My best to you,
> :) Rawn Clark
> 08 Dec 2003
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