Dear Dave, >> Hello, I'm new here. I've been studing Bardon's method's for about 3 monthes now but some of his comments on meditation in "Introduction to Heremetics" are a little ambiguous. << I recommend that you visit the following links. Number one is my commentary upon Step One of "Initiation Into Hermetics" at http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/IIH-Step1.html. Second is a section of excerpts from my public and private correspondence, devoted to issues of IIH practice, at http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/Corresp-IIHPractice.html >> First, is "holding a single thought in your mind" the same as visualizing a simple object like a triangle or square? << No, this is not a visualization exercise. :) Bardon specifically stated "an idea or train of thoughts". In the above link to correspondence excerpts, you'll find a helpful article or two in this very regard. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 25 Holiday 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe