Dear Rawn, You wrote: "With most all auto-immune disease processes, the root cause can be found in the individual's reluctance to be incarnate. Generally, the person is not consciously aware of their reluctance or, if they are aware of reluctance, they seldom associate it with the manifestation of auto-immune disease." It is difficult for me to understand how you associate auto-immune disease with reluctance to be incarnate. Is this something that you perceive intuitively to be correct or is it associated with ancient teachings I wish you would elucidate more fully on this subject. Why is the auto-immune system the target? It would be difficult for me to conceive of any physical manifestation of imbalance to not include the emotional and mental elements. However, it would be difficult to determine which came first. Ancient teachings make reference to the emotional body being the major contributor to physical imbalance and thoughts having less contribution than people might think. And last on the list would be the physical, since it is not considered a principle. The physical attribute could never be the primary cause of anything, but mainly secondary in nature. It might give the impression of being primary cause, but then cause is always invisible. Healers and allopathic physicians tend to look for the cause where it is not and treat the condition at that level. Their efforts is like pushing down one button and another pops up. And the beat goes on! A reluctance to be incarnate certainly would involve the emotional body in that one might be dissatisfied with their life and circumstances and not know how to roll with the punches. I can see from that angle how the auto-immune system would be affected. It puzzles me when I think of how a particular emotion affects specific organs or systems. At one time I had symptoms of liver distress. I was informed that fear, in its many disguises, manifests as liver dysfunction. Upon hearing this, I confronted my fears, which requires considerable self-observation and being truthful with oneself. The physical symptoms quickly resolved. We are so much in the habit of lying to ourselves through justifying our inner contradictions, that we hardly ever desire to get at the root cause of our problems. I would think that the major aim of all hermetic students would be to learn how to control their passions and emotions and be happy with what life has given them, and realize that true happiness comes from the inside and does not come from outside events coinciding with one's desires and wants. Thanks again, Robroy Rawn Clark <rawnclark@...> wrote:Dear Richard, >> Q. can MS be treated successfully at this time by Hermetic means (given Group Karma)? << In this case, group karma is not an issue. >> Q. What is the root cause of the illness, and can it protected against by persons untrained in Hermetics? << With most all auto-immune disease processes, the root cause can be found in the individual's reluctance to be incarnate. Generally, the person is not consciously aware of their reluctance or, if they are aware of reluctance, they seldom associate it with the manifestation of auto-immune disease. The best protection against an auto-immune disease process is to fully engage in life, deal head-on with troublesome issues and find productive ways of de-stressing. >> Q. Assuming it can be treated by Hermetics, any ideas what form the treatment would take? << Treatment must address the whole person and not just the physical manifestation. In other words, it must start at the higher levels of Self and progress downward into the physical body. For the most part, Hermetic healing is not allopathic as in *just* making an adjustment to the physical body's structure such as an allopath would do by prescribing a medication. Instead, true Hermetic healing (or true healing of any kind) addresses the root astra-mental cause *along with* the physical symptoms. If the astra-mental cause is not rectified then the physical symptoms will return even if they have been eliminated once. In the TMO Working Group, we have devised a methodology using The Magic of IHVH-ADNI in which we descend upon our healing subjects with an accumulation of the Adonai Light, starting from their Greater Self (their eternal or Akashic mental body), then their Individual Self (their temporal mental body), then their astral body and finally, their physical body. Thus the *whole* of the incarnate person is directly involved in the healing process, not *just* their physical body. While the results are not as immediately dramatic in terms of their *physical* symptoms as would, say, taking the latest miracle drug, the effects are more permanent and life changing. TMO aside, in terms of Bardonian Hermetic methodology, dealing with MS would require treating the patient's three bodies simultaneously. The first step would be to Fluidically balance their mental, astral and physical bodies, in that sequence. This is done by loading the appropriate halves of each body with the correct Fluid. Then the Elemental regions of each body are likewise loaded with the appropriate Element creating an Elemental *balance* throughout. This would need to be repeated often in conjunction with counseling which must be focused upon addressing the patient's unconscious reluctance to be in their bodies and living their lives. To relieve the immediate symptoms of the sclerosis, I would suggest applications of the Water and the Air Elements to the affected areas. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 07 April 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]