Dear Joa, >> Well, it is not my intention, in any way, to initiate here a polemic about the importance of Aleister Crowley in the contemporary occultism because this forum is about the teachings of Franz Bardon. << ;-) One of my duties as your fearless moderator is to assure that we stick to our focus here, so there's really no danger of the BardonPraxis taking such a diversion. >> In any case, I would say that you musn´t be worry because you haven´t offended my own set of beliefs, simplely because I am NOT a disciple of Aleister Crowley in ANY form. So don´t worry about that! :) << As you pointed out, many of the BardonPraxis members hold Crowley in high regard so out of respect I'm always a bit circumspect when it comes to publicly discussing my thoughts about Crowley. Besides, how *I* feel about Crowley and Thelema is irrelevant. :) >> If you are sceptical about the influence of Crowley, you only have to take a look to many of the nicknames and e-mail adresses of some persons of this forum; you will find in them very clearly a crowleian reminiscence. << Yes, I'm very aware of his influence. >> You say that the phrase "Love is the Law, Love under Will" is not original to Crowley. Well, but then, whose is the original author? << I don't know since that's not an issue that really concerns me. A while back, there was a discussion on the FBM about this and someone came up with an earlier quote that was closer to Crowley's version than Randolph's, but I don't remember where it came from. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 09 April 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe