Dear Rawn and Stephen, Thank you for your posts, I know that it is a matter of persistence one way or another. I do feel that 'brute forcing' my way past these obstacles is not always the best solution - are a lot of problems not merely conceptual (i.e. in the way you are performing the technique)? All the best, C. --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Rawn Clark" <rawnclark@n...> wrote: > Dear "Crimson Tea Biscuit", > > >> While I can visualize confidently and successfully with my eyes > open - I have quite a bit of difficulty visualizing with my eyes closed. > When I visualize something with my eyes closed, such as a banana - it > tends to appear quite vague and only part of it is in view, after a > little while it fades altogether. It appears correctly and accurately > when I have my eyes open. When performing closed eye visualizing, I have > tried duplicating the mental process that I perform with my eyes open - > but without much success. The images are simply not 'summoned up' > easily. << > > I don't know if this is the "answer" per se, but I'd like to offer this > as something for you to ponder. :) One difference between working with > eyes-open and eyes-closed is that with eyes-open you have some sort of > defining background upon which to project your visualization. In other > words, there's a surface which has depth, etc. With eyes-closed on the > other hand, there is no surface but only a depthless blackness. Your > brain therefore isn't able to say, for example, "okay, I will create > this visualization three feet in front of my face". It has no automatic > judgment of *where* to place the visualization. > > Furthermore, in the eyes-closed visualization one doesn't *use* the eyes > in the same way that one does when eyes are open. It forces one to work > with the mental creativity alone, separate from normal sight. > > Over all, I recommend that you keep working at it. :) > > My best to you, > :) Rawn Clark > 11 April 2004 > rawnclark@n... > rawn@a... > http://www.ABardonCompanion.com > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis > http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe