Dear Kurt, Using food, water and air, you basically apply to the Elements of Earth, Water and Air. Therefore, you may not achieve similar successes impregnating the same idea via the three media. Your intuition will tell you which meduim to use for the particular idea. In practice, whatever meduim you use, it seems to work well if you accompany the impregnation with a four-part formula: - a sentence that states the desirable effect on the physical level; - then on the astral level (something to deal with emotions); - then on the mental level (a related mental concept); - finally, a sentence that states the idea in the present tense. For example, *I have good health*. The rationale behind such an approach is that any idea permeates all the three bodies. As for the effectiveness of EM on the physical body, it is more likely to happen in an indirect way. For example, if one wishes to get rid of a decease, they will not get healthy immediately, but will find an excellent medicine soon. Wishing you every success, Lidia kurtis1984 <kurtis1984@...> wrote: Hi guys. Just wondering with Eucharistic Magic (EM)- Bardon states that we should use the same thought for EM of food, air and water. However, each of the items (food, air and water) affects a different body- the physical, astral and mental. So instead of wishing for general health, could I wish for health of the mental body when using air, and health of the astral body when using water etc? Also, how potent is EM for the 'average' step 1 student? Or, what determines it's effectiveness? If one masters it's usage, can you achieve anything bodily? Finally, what are the impurities we remove in the cold shower exercise? Is it an energetic analogy to removal of wastes from the physical body? Thanks, Kurt Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]