Dear Jason, >> 1stly, is this correct and what does it *mean*? I can tell that Moryason has quite a leaning towards the Asian systems and the terms from 4 onward mean nothing whatsoever to me, nor does Bardon mention them that I can discover. << I suggest that you ignore Moryason's comments if they don't help you understand Bardon. :) He does not present an *Hermetic* division of "levels" and I think his comments were meant to aid those who already understood the labels he uses, comprehend the Hermetic labels that they perhaps would not immediately understand. At any rate, if they confuse *you*, then focus instead upon Bardon's own words. >> 2ndly, in the hope of integrating the terminologies of Taoist systems with which I'm a bit familiar... is the 'etheric body', which I associate with what Bardon calls the 'astral matrix' (holds our astral to our physical bodies) the same as the system of routes and channels, the acupuncture meridians and other more psychic energy orbits in the body, that the Taoists meditate upon? 3rdly, if the etheric plane is closer to ours than the astral why doesn't Bardon mention it? << "Etheric" is one of those words that seems to take on new meaning depending upon who's mouth it comes out of. What exactly do *you* mean by "etheric"? If you mean the energy body that many perceive as an aura, then this is an aspect of the *physical* realm and is composed of *physical* energy, albeit a very rarified form of physical energy. These are the currents of energy which run around inside and outside the physical body. This is not the *astral* matrix, but rather, the *physical* matrix which adheres to the astral matrix. This energy often appears to be more-than-physical because it exists at such a rarified physical state that it most immediately susceptible to, and affected by, astral and mental influence. From an Hermetic perspective this is considered an aspect of the physical body. >> 4thly and finally, I'm going to try and read every past post on this group but this will take me approximately 100 days! << ;-) You might want to check out http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/Corresp-Links.html where I've posted some of the juiciest ones! ;-) >> So in the meanwhile, in an early post Mr Clark mentioned that the mental sphere is the origin of magic. I was wondering if this could be expanded upon a little? Is it a question of its being the place of imagination? I think I understand this on an intuitive level but cannot quite express it well... << I think what I said was that all magical acts are directed by the magician's mental body or conscious awareness. This is why mental discipline is so utterly essential. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 19 Aug 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe