Dear Keith, >> I the response below you made a statment that Bardon refer's to in IIH that I never quite understood. In IIH, Bardon warns the magician not to make contact with the beings of the elements before they contact him (or her) first and he implies that if these instructions are not adhered to, the undesirable consequences may follow. Why is this the case? << I suggest that you read my Commentary Upon Step Ten (http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/IIH-Step10.html or pages 122-125 of my first book). In addition to what I wrote there, is also the issue of the magician's own vulnerability at that moment. This will be the first time that the magician enters an Elemental realm in such a manner. The magician must leave their physical body and condense their mental body within the Elemental realm. This means that the cords which connect the solitary mental body with the physical body are being "stretched" to an entirely new degree for the magician. Furthermore, the magician must fill their mental body with the Element of that realm and this means that they are very vulnerable to any influences that exist within that Element's realm. So the magician needs time to adapt to this new level of vulnerability and to acclimate their mental body to the new environment. The time it will naturally take for the magician to begin to see within the realm and begin to observe the beings that reside there *is* the time it takes for the magician to acclimate to the new environment. Once the magician has factually reached the point of acclimation, the beings of the realm will begin to notice the magician's presence. But still the magician is vulnerable in that any negative reaction, from the realm to their presence within it, will immediately cause an Elemental imbalance within the magician. Thus the magician should still wait until the beings of the realm initiate an interaction because, *it is at that moment that the magician ceases to be overly vulnerable to a moderate influence from within the realm impacting them and causing an imbalance*. In other words, when *the magician* is ready and would not be harmed by such an interaction, the beings of the realm will initiate an interaction. The beings of the Elements have no human-like desire to harm others, no human-like motivation to hurt the magician in any way. Their responses are predicated upon the magician's own actions and *factual* level of maturity. If the magician tries to exceed their own true level of maturity, they will be stopped -- without human-like prejudice but very matter-of-factly by the impersonal forces of nature which the beings of the Element embody. Or rather it's not so much that they "will be stopped" as it is that it is simply impossible to exceed such limits. It becomes impossible for the magician to retain their autonomy within the realm so either the magician leaves or they are "absorbed" by the Element and, as Bardon put it, they become a Gnome. >> How real are the consequences Bardon describes? << They are very genuine *possibilities*. However, it must be said that if one has truly mastered each preceding exercise, then such experiences would be *impossible*. :) His warnings are primarily for those who are tempted to "dabble". >> It sounds like this warning applies to the spheres as much as it does the domain of the elements. << In principle, yes, but with experience, comes ease and the "time" it takes to acclimate to each successive realm, decreases rapidly. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 27 Aug 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe