Dear Chris, >> Rawn, have you every written anything on this topic...or do you have any thoughts? Or anyone? << Yes, I did write something about this. You can find it at http://www.ABardonCompanion.com/OnBlackMagicians.html However, instead of searching out the opinions of others about these rather useless labels, I suggest that you rely upon your own inner conscience. *You* *know* what is right or wrong for *you*. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 05 Oct 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe