Re: [BardonPraxis] Re: Ch & Th

["Robert 3 EEE" <rapid3robert2000@...>]

Dan,

Here is another thought/question. As per Bardon as I see it the i is pronounced 
i as in machine and is connected to the left kidney and is light opalescent. 
The J is pronounced J as in John and is connected to the diaphragm and is dark 
opalescent.

The Hebrew Y (as in yellow or young) (or I for Yod) what color, note is it and 
what body part does it connect to ?

I have seen a little confusion in the Bardon books on this.

To me the Y as per Yod sounds a little like a soft J. 

Sincerely, Robert

Dan,
Thank you for this info. It is always a good idea to get these correct at the 
beginning.
Robert



Dear Robert,

Just a couple of notes (and perhaps a few pointers that non-Hebrew 
speakers may find interesting/useful):

1. The letter chet is always pronouced as a guttural "ch" as 
in "Bach" or "loch" as opposed to the letter "he" which is always 
pronouced as the "h" in "hello". One point to note (if you are 
reading Hebrew) is that if you see a word with a chet at the end and 
a patach vowel point underneath (the horizontal line), the final 
syllable of the word is pronounced "aCH" rather than "CHa".

2. Tzaddi is always pronouced "ts" as in "meets". I've heard people 
pronounce the word "tsar" is a number of different ways so its not 
always the best example to give.

3. yod is always pronouced as "y" as in "yellow". As someone noted 
before, there is no equivalent for the letter J.

4. The letter bet can have either a "b" or a "v" sound depending on 
whether there is a dot inside the letter (b) or not (v). (see 
www.akhlah.com/Aleph_Bet/bet/bet.asp. Apologies for using a child's 
website to illustrate this - it was the first reference I found on 
google). I would be interested to know if there are different 
correspondences to "bet" than there are to "vet".

5. Whilst Qabbalists often transliterate the letter tav as "Th", I 
have never seen the letter pronouced as "th" (although it might have 
been in biblical times). Generally, it is pronouced as "t" as 
in "tea" although Jews from Northern Europe often pronounced it 
as "s".

Kindest regards

Dan

--- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "Robert 3 EEE" 
<rapid3robert2000@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Can someone help on this?
> I some times find it difficult to sound out the letters correctly 
as per Bardon for example the Ch sound, is it a guttural sound like 
some of the Hebrews and Germans do from the back of their throat or 
Ch as in chance ? Tzaddi is apparently Cz as in Czar and Sh or Sch 
can sound like Sh as I understand it.
> 
> It appears to me that the Yud is a J sound as in John and the I is 
I as in machine . I think the Y in the word Young is a soft Yud or 
J ! ? 
> 
> In Bardon/Hermetic sounds is there a Th sound with a note and 
color ?
> 
> The Hebrew Hei and Chet sure sound similar to me except the Chet 
is harder (raspy) and from the back of throat.
> 
> Sincerely, Robert
> 
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