Dear Derrick, >> I must say, though, I completely agree with the post (forgive my bad memory, I can't remember the author) that said the practices are, in a way, contradictory. The mind in Buddhism is stilled by relaxed attention and in Hermetics the mind is forced into a blank state by the will. << :) And I must disagree with it, having practiced both Vipassana and Step One. Success with the Step One mental exercises is really about finally relaxing into each exercise. The first one is about detached, attentive observation which is best achieved if one is relaxed instead of fighting or forcing the mind. The second part of the second exercise (one-pointed meditation upon a single thought or train of thoughts) *occurs within the setting of relaxation created through success with the first exercise* and is best achieved through a patient vigilance that is really very Vipassana-like. The first part of the second exercise is also a form of "mindfulness" / Vipassana carried on outside of the meditation room and applied to everyday circumstances. This is a western version of a formal Buddhistic practice. :) Not to mention, a critical faculty for the Step Two and Three work of character transformation. The third exercise *requires* relaxation -- a complete letting go of all thoughts. This cannot be "forced", but it *can* be willed. This third exercise represents where Vipassana meditation is intended to *lead* the meditator. I think the main thing that distinguishes the Step One exercises is that they are in each case focused exclusively upon the *mind*, instead of the breath. Bardon's exercises address the surface mind directly whereas exercises which focus upon the breath, distract the surface mind. Both approaches will free the deeper mind, they just do so from different directions, so to speak, and are rooted in different philosophies. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 19 Oct 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe