Dear Louis (and Mark), If you wish to discuss the techniques presented by Robert Bruce, then I ask that you submit your questions to one of the Astral Pulse discussion groups. :) In regard to Bardon's system, such a phenomenon is indicative of a lack of mental (and quite possibly, even astral) Equilibrium of the Elements. In Bardon's system, this sort of phenomena does not occur since by the time the student reaches Step Nine and begins astral wandering, both the astral and mental Equilibriums are well established. In the case of phenomena having to do with vision, the Elemental imbalance would naturally pertain to the Fire Element. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 04 Nov 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe