Hi Louis, In Astral Projection, it is a combination of both. The fisheye effect comes from the fact that when in a less discrete body you are no longer experiencing visual information from the fixed point of your eyes, but "interfacing" a general perception of energy from parts of you that have been developed during earlier stages of the work. A good trick to get used to this is to "swap" your point of consciousness to directly behind where you were focussed on, so instead of turning you kind of swoosh through your own head and "interface" with this different prespective on you new focus point; it's very good for coordination an dbeing able to re-focus mental projection quickly when in an immersive environment. At the same time, the amount of fisheye, the general clarity of OBE and what else you can percieve whilst doing OBE (Some find it hard to read characters or focus on smaller elements like fingers earlier on) depend purely on your experience within a consciously controlled OBE environment. As always, do it some more and see how your amount of fisheye changes over time! Regards, Mark --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "loumade_1999" <loumade_1999@y...> wrote: > > This has never occurred to me before but in astral projection, it > seems that I am perceiving things as if I am looking at them through > a fish eye lens on a camera where the center is focused and then it > gets grainy and then white near the peripheral edges. Does this > happen this way because I am trying to perceive some sort of sight > through a more common frame of reference like actual eyesight or is > this just the way it is because of my current development? I cant > help but think that this kind of perception is fleeting somehow in > that when I slowly and gradually mature and gain experience that it > will be different.... many thoughts flowing through my mind. > > any inSIGHTs? (hee, I like dumb puns) > > Thank you, > Louis