Dear Jason, >> You're right, getting to last will be hard, a<< :) I never said it would be *hard*. I said it would be a "test/challenge". There's a big difference between these and it boils down to how hard *you* make it for yourself. :) I think the "test/challenge" will be *letting* yourself do it, as opposed to trying to *make* it happen. >> and actually no-one should envy me because getting ex. 1. down is proving quite a sonofabitch. << ;-) We *all* have our "sonofabitch" exercise(s)! And those are the ones that have the most to teach us . . . My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 08 Nov 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe