I'm not really a fan of rationality and the rational mindset either. As far as imagining images is concerned I can see how you can have that without actively creating them, but not with verbal thoughts which you actually have to personally say/think. I am still kind of confused about it because I don't see a train of thought as something that you can be detached from because of the fact that you're actively thinking it. I think Bardon wanted us to get into a train of thought and just be aware of it and remember it. Ardeshir --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "D. Lee Christopher" <dleechristopher@c...> wrote: > > Being an overly analytical person myself, I can understand where you > are coming from. I only started understanding how to be the detached > observer by being the detached observer. What I mean is that at some > point I made myself stop the analysis; stop trying to figure this > whole thing out. You're not going to get the answers that you're > seeking by being the analytical scientist (if you will). Just have a > seat, relax, calm yourself, your breathing, your body, and just let it > go. It should only take a few times before you suddenly realize that > you were doing just what you tried so hard to understand. Then, of > course, you've strayed from the exercise due to excitement, but it > only gets easier with each attempt. > > I find the less time I spend worrying and analysing things to death, > the more time I spend actually understanding things from the inside out. > > Let it go.