Hi Prometheus <<I was wondering if any of the practitioners in the group have found a way to integrate some form of self-defence training into their Hermetic practices. Whether physical or with the use of magic. >> I'm in no position to give a good answer but I do find it an interesting question/issue. On the perspective that self-defence is a credible application Of Bardons system, I'll assume this isn't off-topic. Bardon himself gave numerous descriptions of lunar spirits that specialise in self-protection. And Beings of the Elements can offer similar aid upon request, based on my reading of second-hand accounts. But given that you are asking, neither suggestion is particularly relevant to yourself at present. Here's a few ideas, which might encourage further discussion or insight, beyond what I can offer myself? I know Rawn mentioned that Chi Kung, the practice of manipulating the flow of chi (aka Vital Energy) as the internal structure for the outward movement of Kung Fu & Tai Chi martial arts, is both compatible and synergistic with Bardons practices. Several members of this forum appear to be active martial artists. A few martial artist's appear to master energies similar to the electric & magnetic fluids for self-defence, making the chi kung manipulation of chi look quite basic. But that's after decades of consistent practice, and such advanced kung fu training is rarely available and not without certain risks. With a little imagination a number of Bardon's practices could probably be used to paralyse an attacker, given enough practice. But that may require an unbalanced development (never advisable as per Bardon). The triple shielding that Rawn suggests offers a type of self- defence ? against air-borne microbes (not to be overlooked if holding down full time employment!) Karma is obviously an issue whenever physical attacks are involved. I can't really comment on such things but I believe Rawn mentioned that the TMO practice offered the means to render certain karmic lessons a little less harsh. This practice conducted with your family in mind may well help offset any severe karmic problems sitting on the distant horizon (though I am speculating, best ask Rawn?) Some attacks on people seem to occur almost because those people have a victim's mentality. Like as if unconscious body language is saying `over here, I'm a target'. Soul mirror work on hidden anxieties, fears, etc., and the Step III work on the Elements, Fire in particular, may help to bolster the aura to avoid looking an easy target perhaps? Step III & Step V practitioners could probably create gemstone talismans with either VE or the Elements respectively, with the ideation of protection, and given to the loved ones as keepsakes or pieces of jewellery, provided they were kept on their person. (Again, I'm speculating?) There are many other possibilities hidden within Bardon's methodology that could perhaps be applied to self-defence, provided it is self- defence not attack, but these few ideas might get the ball rolling? I wish you and your family well. Richard