Dear Rawn, >>>Instead of writing something myself, I suggest "The True and Invisible Rosicrucian Order" by Paul Foster Case. In that book, he does the best job I've ever read of describing the initiatory degrees in the Western Hermetic Tradition.<<< I'll see if I can look into that. >>>I also suggest that you take a look at my "Permutations of the Tree: BOOK 231". Specifically the section titled "The 231 Gates of Yetziratic Redemption (Initiation)". The gates that belong to each of the Sephirot, describe the tasks of initiation into that specific Sephirot/degree. These Gates are arranged in an initiatory sequence.<<< I tried to look at your "Permutations of the Tree: Book 231" some time ago and couldn't make heads or tails of what it all meant. Maybe it's about time I took a look at that work again. >>>Yes, it is a difference in quality as opposed to quantity. However, there is the matter of the long time it takes to learn how to truly condense the Tree into the three bodies, verses the considerably shorter time it takes to learn how to truly accumulate the Elements and thereby balance the three bodies. In other words, it takes less time to learn the Elemental work than it does the Kabbalistic work.<<< Oh yes, there is considerably less time to learn the Elemental work as opposed to the Kabbalistic work. With the Kabbalistic work one has to look for the essential meaning of each of the spheres and paths, then try to figure out the colour symbolism and work on condensing that essential meaning through colour. It is a long process that has to be taken step by step, but it does seem to work quite well. At the present moment whenever I feel an imbalance I work through the pattern on the trestleboard, with each statement condensing down the colour within the mental body (I've been working heavily with the Gra tree). Which in turn seems to help rectify most imbalances. At least for a little while. With each repitition it seems to work out more imbalances for a longer period of time. >>By "the Kabbalistic work", I don't mean simply visualizing the Tree in each of your three bodies. Instead, I mean the ability to *truly* condense the essential meaning of each component of the Tree (i.e., the 32 Paths of Wisdom), into each of the three bodies. Bardon described this process in the "Preparatory" work section of KTQ. Achieving this ability requires the undertaking of a long process of transformation affecting all three bodies, brought about by the exercises that Bardon described.<<< While I believe that I'm not quite up to that level yet, I do understand what you're talking about. At the present I'm working at something similar to what we've previously talked about on working on the training for Kabbalah that can be done before the attainment of step eight. Now, what you're saying is that the preparatory work within KTQ works with the condensing down of the various letters/paths within the three bodies. Therefore essentially transforming the three bodies into the tree of life, and hence, a conscious living and breathing expression of the Divine. Love and Live well, Peter Reist