Dear Maria: For me, I think what helped the most was the one-pointedness exercise. Instead of taking a topic of my choosing, I would take the first thought that came to mind. So, sometimes, I would sit for a minute without any thoughts until one came. But I think the most effective thing that really gave a break through, was letting go. At first I thought of the exercise as one where I was struggling against my mind to keep out all thoughts, to suppress them. Whereas, it's really about achieving a state of mind. You are trying to elevate your mind to a different wave length than what it normally operates on. One where you are still. Truly still. So to help, I started to focus on my breathing when I started the exercise. Close my eyes, relax my body, and concentrate on my breathing. Deliberate, but normal breaths. Then after a while, when I felt relaxed, I let that concentration go and just left my mind OPEN rather than CLOSED. I think that's the key. Don't think so much that the exercise is about shutting out thoughts, but rather that its about letting go of thoughts. It's not a struggle, but a (what's the best word...) peaceful exercise. Now, after performing the exercise, I feel relaxed and mentally rejuvinated. Of course, this approach can be applied to all of the exercises, but I found it to be almost a requirement to perform this one correctly. Something else that might help as well: I do my studies in my room where the computer is running, so there is a slight background hum from the fans that are running in the computer. Blocked out mostly during my mundane daily work, I really noticed it when I started to do this exercise. I also found out that it helped me to have something like that there to focus on, as it allowed me to sort of test if I had relaxed enough. If during the exercise, I could hear the fans, then I wasn't performing it correctly. Because when I did it correctly, I couldn't hear the fans. Just some things to chew on I suppose. All will go well. -- Alan --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "mariaclearwater333" <mariaclearwater333@y...> wrote: > Hi everybody > I am new to this group. For a very long time now (years), I am > working every day very diligently on chapter 1 and wasn't able to > stay for 10 minutes without thoughts. I feel quite desperate and am > reaching out for your help. What helped you? How did you get to the > place of having control over your thoughts? > > I am very thankful for specific help: Maria