<<What you describe sounds to me like "realizing that you are asleep", one of the cardinal points of the 4-th way (Gurdjieff). To me it sounds like a fine, deep realization at that ;-)>> Thanks so much for trying to consolate me <sigh> :-) <<Personally I have been thinking about an other side of this coin.>> Can you tell me how many sides your coins have :-? <<Sometimes I find, to use your words, a "nice, sweet, mental", not SLEEP but REST. That is, I don't DO anything at all. First, I have to *try to not do* anything, but after a while, this seems to be a real not-doing. It is as if my thoughts, and after a while myself, ceased to exist. Life goes on, and I know it, but almost without me. Mind you, this state I only keep for short periods of time.>> Well, I was not talking about *this*. What surfaced yesterday was an almost perfect illustration of one of the negative sides of the melancholic (and phlegmatic) temperaments, meaning idleness. I hadn't discovered it before, because I was working on specifics, while this problem was filling the entire landscape, so to speak. Well. Guess I'll have a very large mirror :-) Greetings NB __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/