Dear Peter, >> As far as "needing" goes. If a magician that is truely able to perform an evocation as per Bardon's pre-requisits, then he really doesn't need any help performing a certian task as he can do it on his own. << Yes. However, when a friend agrees to take on a specific task, or series of tasks, for you, then your time is freed for other tasks. There are also some entities who will offer a continual sort of assistance that will automatically fulfill certain functions for the magician without the necessity of even asking for assistance situationally. >> A need for information is a slightly different matter in my opinion given that quite a few of the earthzone spirits have access to quite a few of those hidden little secrets that are still not widely known. << Yes and this can be approached in a fashion that honors an entity's willingness and pleasure to *share*. In other words, there's a line beyond which it becomes a matter of greed and of gluttony, which is offensive. >> Namely that trying to encompass each zone, or trying to merge with the divine is quite a bit like trying to master the akasha. To try to encompass one magnitude of infinity one can not do this with small steps. << :) Actually, one can, but the problem is, it takes an infinite amount of time! ;-) >> At the same time, however, those first small steps are necessary so that one is prepaired to make the gigantic leap to encompass all of infinity. << Yes. >> Now, how should one approach the particular zone? I mean, if you first start with a particular zone do you start with trying to contact those "heads" that encompass a vast majority of the zone, or do you start off with the lesser spirits? Start off by contacting lower-middle management or the CEO as it where? I know Bardon suggests introducing yourself slowly and gradually to the zone. << This is *not* like a *human* hierarchy. The level at which you *can* enter into a realm and the level of entity that you *can* communicate with has little to do with your desire. It has to do with *your* level of maturity. My recommendation is that you approach a realm in the manner that Bardon described for working with the Elemental realms. First you enter the realm and establish your presence. Observe and explore your surroundings and wait for an entity of that realm to begin an interaction with you. However, instead of following my recommendation, I suggest that you ask your HGA for advice and spend some time meditating upon this question. The proper answer for *you*, lies within *you*. :) >> Love and Live well, << Thanks. :) I try my best to do exactly that, with every thought, word and deed. :) My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 27 Aug 2004 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe