LVX Not all thoughts are provoked by our will. Maybe a memory will arise unbidden, unasked for. Maybe a good one, maybe a bad one. Or you associate one thing with another, thoughts comeing forth, one after another. Most peoples entire days are filled with nothing but this, a circle of thoughts, one thought, shaping from one thing to another. Watch your mind, any sound, any idea, any music stuck in your head, even the thought, the idea "im watching my mind". Your a part of it all, but how much of that stuff did you Will into your mind? You have to relax your will and the grip/control you think you have of your mind. Try to dispell those things, all of them, and exist purely as one with the things around you, in the moment, or even one of them. Try just for a few moments, and youll see that you dont have has much of a grip/active role in your mind and thoughts as one would think. The song comes back, the imagery keeps going, the thoughts keep changing thier shape. One you can see how you have less control than you think, the first step to control is the first step itself, which is to watch these thoughts. Dont tell them to do anything, dont stop them if they become unpleasant or boring, because those things in itself will bring more thoughts. The mind responds to emotional stimuli, and vice- versa. In other words, you dont have to will anything because it will just happen, because already your thoughts have a 'will' of thier own until you get further in the exercizes and can begin to shape them and move them with your will. Hope this helps. LVX Frater ha-sufah --- In BardonPraxis@yahoogroups.com, "sineadoconnorfan" <sineadoconnorfan@y...> wrote: > > But if anyone can give me a specific clarification of my problem > with the first excercise I would appreciate it. My problem is that > I don't see how we can have a train of thought without being > actively involved in imagining it, so then I don't understand how we > can be detached from a train of thought when a train of thought > requires active participation in imagining it. Thanks for your help. > > Ardeshir