Dear Joel, >> Does ankhur is a method that the beings apply in a more mature magician (and give the system for the less mature magician to practice and develop in a big period of time), or ankhur is used for all the magicians? << Only a mature magician would be able to contact these entities in the first place. My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 17 Apr 2005 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe