Hello Rawn, Your questions have provoked an investigation on my part from which I have come to some conclusions which I will list for the sake of brevity and clarity. 1) The energy I described in my previous email is more akin to the water element and the magnetic fluid and is not the vital energy. As I understand it the vital energy is not cool, but more firery. 2) I am suspecting it is accumulating of its own accord because I have a one sided inbalance towards water and the magnetic fluid. I had to work very hard at the visualisation exercises, which shows fire was weak from the outset.whereas I found sound and smell very easy. 3) I am able to accumulate the vital energy but whenever doing pore breathing the sensations previously described would present themselves and eclipse/be more noticable than the sensations from the vital energy. 4) I get the sensations and accumulation of a watery/cool energy as peviously described whether I breathe fast, slow or normal, but the sensations are increased if I slow the breathing down. However, I take your point on breathing normally and will follow that. 5) I'm not convinced the cool quicksilver energy is a natural result of breathing slowly, its a very substantial energy whatever its true name is. For instance, were I to pass it down my arm into another person they would I think definitely feel it. Its definitely not a purely subjective sensation but a substantial accumulation of energy of some sort. 6) My conclusion for now is that I must still have an inbalance towards the water element. with all good wishes Zach > Dear Zach, > > Throughout IIH and KTQ, Bardon repeatedly said to NOT induce any > irregularities to the normal breathing rhythm and rate when performing > these exercises. The reason being that many of the physical effects you > described here can be achieved by merely slowing the breath to, as you > say, one or two cycles per minute, and have nothing to do with an > accumulation of the VE, or with pore breathing, per se. This makes it > very hard for the student to differentiate between the sensations > produced by a prolonged slowing of the breath, verses the natural > effects of pore-breathing an accumulation of the VE. > > My question to you is two-fold: a) can you achieve an accumulation of > the VE through pore breathing *without* altering your normal breathing > speed; and b) does this produce the same physical sensations? > > My best to you, > :) Rawn Clark > 01 Jul 2003 > rawnclark@... > rawn@... > http://www.ABardonCompanion.com > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis > http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > BardonPraxis-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >