Dear Zach, >> 2) I am suspecting it is accumulating of its own accord because I have a one sided inbalance towards water and the magnetic fluid. I had to work very hard at the visualisation exercises, which shows fire was weak from the outset.whereas I found sound and smell very easy. 3) I am able to accumulate the vital energy but whenever doing pore breathing the sensations previously described would present themselves and eclipse/be more noticable than the sensations from the vital energy. << Okay, I suggest the following then as a way of breaking this pattern. Concentrate very intensively when you begin your pore breathing exercise and take VERY careful note of the sensations that accompany the VE. As soon as these other watery sensation begin to arise, stop your practice *immediately* and thoroughly rid yourself of those watery sensations. When you're completely rid of them, start again with the inhalation of VE, focusing VERY intensively upon the sensations that accompany the VE. *EVERY* time that these watery sensations intrude upon your VE practice, follow the procedure I've outlined. I hope this helps! :) My best to you, :) Rawn Clark 02 Jul 2003 rawnclark@... rawn@... http://www.ABardonCompanion.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BardonPraxis http://E.webring.com/hub?ring=arionthebardonwe